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WOW Exclusive: JSJ Sits Down with Non-Binary Supermodel/Activist/”Gender Capitalist” Rain Dove

By James St. James on August 2, 2018 3:40 pm

Fascinating, fascinating. You won’t regret clicking on this.

I sat down with former firefighter-turned-supermodel, activist, and “gender capitalist” Rain Dove to discuss their long and winding road to success as well as the power of not conforming to either men’s or women’s body standards in the fashion industry.

Says the superhot 6-foot-2 model: “The gender thing doesn’t exist; it’s a social construct you don’t have to fit into,”

Hear all about their story: From getting a degree in genetic engineering, to living as a male firefighter, to losing a bet with a friend and having to go to a casting call for Calvin Klein (which turned out to be for men’s underwear). It’s quite a tale.

Watch below and then follow Rain on Instagram and Twitter

I’m not a boy. I’m not a girl either. I am an I. A Being in a vessel that can not accurately be compared to another Being’s. My genitals are not the same as yours. My kidneys are not the same as yours. My tastebuds are not the same as yours. My nipples are not the same as yours. My toes are not the same as yours. We are not ants. And even they are infinitely different when you look closely. When it comes to labels I let You label me as You see fit. Your definitions are for You to have and they are valid in their own right- You will only know what you allow yourself to know. And if You don’t know me personally it is a natural instinct to fill in the blanks. How You Define me does not Confine me. The label you give me personally does not harm me- it does not enrage me. It does not cause me to lose sleep. It does not cause me to question myself. I have detached from the responsibility to make You feel a certain way or adhere to certain language around me. I’m using that energy to focus on just existing in the best light for me. For You. For us. For them. The only thing You need to know about me if You feel I am an alien thing is simple “I come in Peace”. So please let me be in such as well. I promise I’m likely not a sign of “the end of days” and even if I were and you’re correct then don’t panic. Isn’t the afterlife for believers like You supposed to be perfection? 😉 Ps this side by side was one of the first ever made and it just hit 10 MILLION CIRCULATIONS today! 🎉 🎉 🎉 #IamI #CleanUpOnAisle7 #lgbtq #genderqueer #genderisthematrix #lovewins #BodiesArentComparable #SayYesToTheDress #youmissedaspot

A post shared by Rain Dove (@raindovemodel) on Jul 12, 2018 at 11:38am PDT

Same person, same outfit cost and color, same day- different perceived worth. I took to the streets of LA/Seattle and asked people “How much money do you think I have in my bank account right now?” While wearing each outfit. The answers were drastically different. In the collared shirt and pants most people thought I had $10-20,000 in my account. But in the dress they said $1-5000. ———————————- When I asked why people thought I only had $1-5,000 in my account while in a dress the two most common responses were “Well, you’re trans right? So don’t statistics say that trans people are typically poorer?” Or “As a girl you’re not ugly but with your short hair and face you definitely look alternative. I just kinda thought maybe it isn’t easy for someone who looks like you to get a job? Like customer service wise?” ———————————– So to be seen as worth more I’ll wear the look on the left. And work hard to lift up the people who wear the look on the right so maybe the perceptions change. ———————————– #EducateDontHate #MilkMilkLemonade #animalkingdom #gendercapitalism #lgbtq #piadkh #genderreveal #wearenotgender #wearesomethingmorecomplexandnonhomogenous #frolicfrolic 📸@isobellovespink 👗👔@outofthecloset thrift store (donated back at the end of the project)

A post shared by Rain Dove (@raindovemodel) on May 11, 2017 at 8:27am PDT

My new @KennethCole #MyStepsWill campaign image! Same clothes. Same place. Same person. But simply wearing different shoes can change how people treat me throughout the day. No matter what they think don’t ever stop saying to yourself ” #MyStepsWill make an impact.” Excited to be a part of the new Kenneth Cole campaign featuring the hashtag #mystepswill as a call to action for a more conscientious future. If only more brands campaigned like this! #lovewins #wearesomethingbigger #bigfeetmeanbigsocks #wearemovingup #queer #genderfluid #genderreveal #lgbt #qpiah #twinkletoes 📸@nomifoto 🎩@_spanishfly

A post shared by Rain Dove (@raindovemodel) on Sep 30, 2016 at 2:04pm PDT

“Men’s” vs “Women’s” haircuts have drastically different costs. I interviewed, visited and surveyed over 200 gender specific hair salons and barbershops in LA/NYC/London to ask the pricing of the SAME type of hair cut. Long on top- buzzed sides. Despite the cut being exactly the same- the prices were different at “men’s” vs “women’s” establishments. “Women’s” salons tended to actually charge 1.7x MORE than “Men’s”. ($15 average for men’s vs $26 average for women’s) After interviewing several stylists and barbers about why this is- here are some of the responses I got. “Men don’t complain about their haircuts as much as women. You’re able to get them done faster. Women tend to nitpick and be perfectionists or even return asking for more cleanup on their cuts. That’s why women pay more.” “Women have been brainwashed into seeing hair care as a Luxury experience- but men see it as a basic necessity… like underwear. Men therefore tend to get their haircut more frequently. Whereas women go as a special treat.” “Men pay less but that’s because the experience is often less. It’s quicker and rougher. Whereas women are treated softer, sometimes receive shoulder massages, hair washes, and styling after their cut.” And one more from a barbershop I once went to in San Diego. “Men charge men less because they know that when the man walks out of the salon or barbershop the world will demand more of them. Because they are men. Getting a break in the price of a haircut is a rare refuge from a world that sees men as needing to always pay more- even if they don’t have it.” To break this barrier we simply need to choose the location of our haircut based on the experience we want to have. Not the one society wants to have. To save money on short haircuts likely go to the barbershop. To get pampered likely go to a salon. You might get some looks. But at least you will also be getting equality. (Ps also unisex salons exist!) #NeitherHairNorThere #HairySituations #GenderCapitalism #GenderIsTheMatrix #IamI #genderfluid #lgbtq #transformationtuesday #SheerMadness 📸 photo by @amesbeckerman 👗👔 styling @crazyexgalpal @sierrajiminez

A post shared by Rain Dove (@raindovemodel) on Jan 23, 2018 at 11:03am PST

I’d rather die with love in my heart and the satifisfaction that I tried in my mind than the venom of hatred coursing my veins and vile bitterness on my tongue. I believe in giving everyone a chance to sit at the table with me for a meal. No matter who you are, what you done, what you’re doing. I will always break bread with you. I may have firm words to share in things that I disagree about but they will always be laced with the goal of love and respect. Educate Don’t Hate. _________________________________ (Ps Binding without a professional binder can be deadly or break bones. Please do not bind like this at home if you choose to bind. It’s how I used to bind temporarily for shoots or “men’s” jobs. And it’s never worth it.) #EducateDontHate #Lovewins #genderfluid #gender #IamI #genderqueer #lgbtq #saga #bellybutton #scars #FrolicFrolicFrolic #wlyg #AlwaysOpenToLearn #NipplesTheseDay #wbw

A post shared by Rain Dove (@raindovemodel) on Nov 28, 2017 at 9:00am PST

You can sit with me. No matter if you have nothin to say. No matter if you feel you don’t fit in. No matter if you feel we won’t agree. The table is always open to you. ———————————– You may say “No thank you- I hate everything about you.” Or “No fuck no! I’d never sit with a queer.” But just know- the offer still exists for whenever you may find yourself seeking a seat. Away from the hate. Away from dishonesty. Away from judgement. #SafeSpace #YouCANSitWithUs #genderfluid #genderisntscience #lgbt #qpiadkh #lovewins #androgynous #wedonthavetobeinlovetobekind #EducateDontHate PHOTO: @rachelthalia For @glassbook Creative Direction: @wifenyc

A post shared by Rain Dove (@raindovemodel) on Jul 28, 2017 at 9:20am PDT

There are things people often think I am that ARE “commonly most advantageous” & usually safest (in my personal experience). Here is the list in order! (also race is added in there because it factors into the perception of the “gender” big time) . 1) Hetero Cis White Male- 2) Gay Cis White Male- 3) Cis White Lesbian/Bisexual- 4) Any Sexuality White Trans Male- 5) Hetero Cis White Female- 6) Any Sexuality White Trans Female. WHY?! Find out as I literally strip down in @stylelikeu most recent video- and share a bit of my story. If you’re interested the link is in my bio. Id love to hear your story too so feel free to always DM! #IAmWhatsUnderneath #lovetheskinyourein #thenakedtruth #lgbtqpiadkh #lgbtq #genderfluid #pffffftgenderisbasicallymakebelieve

A post shared by Rain Dove (@raindovemodel) on May 30, 2017 at 11:25am PDT

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