Oh Lord. This is a hard one to sit through. So much ignorance. So much pettiness. So much nastiness. Yesterday, on HLN’s Dr. Drew On Call, transgender reporter and wowlebrity Zoey Tur faced off with douchey Breitbart journalist Ben Shapiro in a debate over Caitlyn Jenner’s ESPY award. Zoey tried her damnest to speak truth to power, but things quickly went from nasty to intolerable.
“Forget about the disrespect,” Shapiro said, in the full clip first reported by Breitbart. “Facts don’t care about your feelings. It turns out that every chromosome, every cell in Caitlyn Jenner’s body, is male, with the exception of some of his sperm cells.”
“We both know chromosomes don’t necessarily mean you’re male or female,” Tur replied, and then put her hand on Shapiro’s shoulder. “So you don’t know what you’re talking about, you’re not educated on genetics.” That prompted Shapiro to ask: “What are your genetics, sir?”
And off we go. “You cut that out now, or you’ll go home in an ambulance,” Tur shot back while holding Shapiro by the back of his neck. The rest of the show’s guests then explained to Shapiro how he knew full-well his use of “sir” was meant to be inflammatory, but he was not moved. “It’s not a matter of aggressively insulting,” he said. “The entire discussion is whether we are embracing mental illness and delusion as a society.”
When the show returned from a commercial break the two were still going at it, with Tur calling Shapiro a “little man.” Watch both segments below:
God bless Zoey, but she shouldn’t have to deal with such assholery.