Savannah Guthrie visited Ellen DeGeneres‘ talk show set to discuss the end of her talk show, and it was disconcerting for some to see DeGeneres be so candid in that setting. It’s also interesting to hear her side of things, which does not match up with how her critics experienced her show’s environment.
DeGeneres says that the whole thing felt orchestrated and misogynistic. Via Deadline:
DeGeneres told Guthrie that “if it was why I was quitting, I would have not come back this year. I really did think about not coming back. It was devastating. I am a kind person. I am a person who likes to make people happy. I just kept saying to Portia [de Rossi] if I was a fan of somebody, and even though I loved them I would think there must be some truth to it because it is not stopping. And then right on the heels of that I hear that there is a toxic work environment, which I had no idea, never saw anything that would even point to that.”
Guthrie said that “there probably people who are thinking, ‘How could you not know. And if you didn’t know, should you have known?”
DeGeneres responded, “I don’t know how I could have known when there is 255 employees here, and there are a lot of different buildings, unless I literally stayed here until the last people goes home at night. It is my name on the show, so clearly it affects me, and I have to be the one to stand up and say, this can’t be tolerated. But I do wish somebody would have come to me and said, ‘Hey, there is something that you should know about.’”
Guthrie, one of the hundreds of guests DeGeneres thought it would be funny to scare on camera, asked her yet again why she thinks that is OK. Via The Advocate:
“Two hundred times is a lot, and one time was with me,” Guthrie said. “Why do you do that? I know I ask you this every time.”
DeGeneres failed to read Guthrie’s facial expression and tone and replied, “Because it’s fun. You know it’s fun.”
“It wasn’t fun in the moment. Those were real tears,” Guthrie said.
Still, not reading the cues, DeGeneres insisted, “But now it’s fun.”
Guthrie wrapped it up with an unenthusiastic “It’s fun to think about.”
Apparently it’s no fun to try to scare de Rossi, who does not scare easily.
Despite the drama of the last year or so, there is no denying that the show is a watershed moment in LGBTQ history and must be acknowledged as such. DeGeneres made the world a better place for many people, even if it wasn’t always that great for some employees and guests.
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