Inside Deep Throat Directors' Journal

MONDAY JUNE 30 2003

Legendary porn star interview #1:� Marilyn Chambers. Marilyn, of course, was not in Deep Throat, but in Behind The Green Door. And after Linda dumped husband / abuser / svengali Chuck Traynor, it was Marilyn who took up with him. By her account, she had a happy and mutually beneficial relationship. Chuck was the one who taught her to deep throat, using the same technique of hypnosis that he had supposedly acquired while a Marine in Vietnam.

So, er, how exactly do you do it?

There's a whole technique that's involved in it.� Chuck Trainer taught me how to do it.� He taught me through hypnosis that your mind controls your body.� And that, obviously, you have certain, uh, gagging reflexes that you can control.

OK, well, it's kind of the secrets of the trade.� How much are you paying me for this?� (Laughts, clears throat) There's a whole positioning involved, and when somebody. . . it's very difficult to explain, I mean, and I'm not an artist.� But if a man is like laying on the bed, okay, and his, now I'm going to get like embarrassed. (Laughs) I know that seems impossible.

There's a certain way to breath.� And, if you want to come over here, I'll show you.� (Laughs) No, I'm kidding.� Um, there's a certain way that you breath.� There's a certain angle that you have to be at.� Because it's kind of like being a sword swallower.

But, um. . . .� (Laughs) God, you lay, uh, the woman. . . .� (Laughs) Shit, now, I can't say it.� I'm turning red, so, which is really stupid, okay.� (Laughs) Start over.

And so that when, and, you know, the lip action is real important.� And, um, the breathing is, uh, it's really kind of easier to show than it is to explain.� But the breathing action is, um, is very important, because you don't want to choke, you don't want to gag. I mean, that's like really embarrassing when you choke, you don't want to do that.

I mean, your mind just gets into a whole thing where, uh, your throat does feel like a vagina.� I mean, it's like you, your, your whole, you get confused, it's like you go into a trance basically, of, to what you're doing.� And, it's really, um, I was going to say psychedelic, but that's kind of an old word.� (Laughs) Psychedelic.�

Before Chuck, Marilyn had been married to a bagpipe player.

That day we also interviewed Tony Bill. Call it the Oscar Factor, but there is something about interviewing people with the little gold statuette on their mantelpieces.� Tony Bill was one of the producers of The Sting who ended up being one of the very few witnesses allowed to testify for the defence in the Memphis Deep Throat trial. In a nutshell Harry Reems was charged, merely for acting in the film, for being a part of the conspiracy to distribute obscenity. Well, the defence and Hollywood had something to say about that. But the judge wouldn't let them - because if he had let people like Jack Nicholson and Warren Beatty it would have been quite clear that the actor had nothing to do with the film's distribution. So after Tony BIll, he decided not to hear any more witnesses.